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I can help Gitto! At 5.25am this morning I thought I needed medical help too.

Thanks lumen. I've just found the one I used previously too: Quinaplus. Word Matcher.

Thanks Gitto, must have lost an E somewhere.

Lumen, feel that I am beyond help - but how long are the quotations, because I am tired of grid staring, once again.

They are 20 letters each, as mentioned earlier.

So they overlap.

Gitto, if it helps my epiphany came when I started by looking at the ambiguous letters on the RH edge. You have the shape you are looking for and its size. This should help.

Gitto, they are as Lumen says. And if you have the shape, as you know its area, you ought to be able to work out how those cells are traversed. Pay particular attention to 2 squared + 3 squared and what it equals, remembering that each shape is centred on a grid intersection.

i have no shape (other than one of the superfluous words) nor any quotations or the play - my towel is now on the floor as grid staring is now becoming a little boring..

Have you got the pairs of letters gitto?