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mathprofrockstar

4th October 2020, 01:44
Actually 26d does refer to a real life “adventurer.” If you look up the town of 26d Point in California you can get the information.
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brendan

4th October 2020, 02:00
Hi MPRS,

I think 26d refers to a person - I'm not entirely sure who but it specifies "US" which I don't think it would do if it was a computer game character.

Some of the 'containment' words in the thematic phrases really surprised me - "bi...." and "re.." for example, I never would have thought they shared that definition.

There are still a couple I can't fully parse - 27a and 27d and also the first letter of 6d where the last 4 letters are "unaltered" so the first letter must come from "after 11" but why?
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hotelwhiskey7

4th October 2020, 02:10
In Chambers, but very, very deep.

Back is a vat or tub.
Sound is a fish’s swim bladder.
O is Roman numeral for eleven.

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brendan

4th October 2020, 02:14
That is fantastic, many thanks HW7.
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mathprofrockstar

4th October 2020, 03:56
Brendan, I believe you misread my post. I agree that 26d is a real person. I indicated that the town in California was named after him.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Henry_Dana,_Jr.
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mathprofrockstar

4th October 2020, 03:59
Thanks, HW7. It seems the Listener is back to its obscurities after last week's respite. I'd never heard of O as a Roman Numeral, and I'm a math guy as you might assume. By the way, the Roman's did not have a numeral for 0.
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mathprofrockstar

4th October 2020, 04:00
And the flagrantly incorrect apostrophe in "Roman's" was not my doing, but the infernal autocorrect.
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brendan

4th October 2020, 04:04
Hi MPRS,

I see what you mean but in addition to Richard Dana, there's also Dana and Ginger Lamb...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dana_and_Ginger_Lamb

If you Ctrl F the page you'll see the word "adventurer" mentioned seven times and their canoe is on display at the Lobby of Adventurers' Club in Los Angeles.
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hotelwhiskey7

4th October 2020, 04:18
Thanks Maths.

Strictly it’s medieval Roman numerals - well after the end of the Roman Empire of course but before the widespread adoption of the Arabic convention.

Over-represented in barred grids as they usefully fill odd single cells to make up difficult compiles - and there are lots of them - O (probably from onze), F (40), N (90), K (151), Z (2000) etc
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dylan

4th October 2020, 06:08
Thanks malone and simple Simon. I hadn’t noticed the full content of the second row, and then my son in law spotted the common feature of the extra words.

I’d never come across this meaning of the. Common word in the bottom row.
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