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jigjag

14th October 2021, 15:55
Grunger

I tend to agree with you. I shorten the second syllable to a very short "A". But I think the second syllable being dropped completely is quite common, so the terrible pub is probably Ok in the clue.

I dont think the TImes should be encouraging the dropping of syllables or slovenly speech.
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malone

14th October 2021, 16:13
Jigjag, Grunger, I thought that clue, answer was totally dire and didn't like it one bit. The homophone clue at 26 A, Informer picked up illegal bit of tack (8) worked.
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grunger

14th October 2021, 18:28
Malone

Thanks. Glad you agreed on that clue. Yes I liked the other clue - a proper homophone.
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orson

14th October 2021, 19:07
May I humbly beg that for such posts you tell us what the clue is? I thank you in anticipation.
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malone

14th October 2021, 19:10
Orson, the second clue is given on my post just up above. I'm out just now, so can't give the one mentioned earlier.
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jono

14th October 2021, 19:21
Orson, both clues are given if you read the earlier posts. I rather like the fiddle clue, it works for me
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orson

14th October 2021, 19:44
How far back should I look? I gone back to post 136 and I cannot see any clues to the ones mentioned: viz, 23a, 1d, 10a and 26a.

I know sometimes it is possible to stop seeing things in front of one's nose when one has looked for too long. Malone quotes a clue at 136 but I don't know if that's one of those I've mentioned above.
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malone

14th October 2021, 19:50
Orson, my post at 162 carries on the discussion of today's homophones.
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orson

14th October 2021, 19:55
Fair enough, malone, and thank you. I think I find it hard to see a clue when it is embedded in the text.
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grunger

14th October 2021, 20:47
Orson

The clue some of us did not like, but jono did was in post 160

As some might say: despicable local fiddle (6)
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