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brendan

4th July 2021, 18:17
.... that was minus it's F(oot)
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rocky7

4th July 2021, 18:22
Thanks Brendan. No I was nowhere near working that out other than the small part. Ok that's wrapped up for another week.
Better Everyman than last week I thought. More taxing.
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geeker

4th July 2021, 18:40
rocky: "...I do sometimes wonder if 'Everyman' refers to the fact that all and sundry are contributing clues..."

I've wondered what officially defines an "Everyman" puzzle. I doubt that multiple setters are often used; that seems inefficient, difficult to arrange, and possibly more costly for the Guardian. For a long time I thought that Everymans were supposed to be easier than standard cryptics, but I'm not sure that's the case, aside from their typical use of "solver-friendly" grids with many crossers/crossings.

The 2 main "Everyman" characteristics I notice are (a) the solver-friendly grids; (b) some general informality/looseness of cluing relative to other cryptics.

Funny that this week's Everyman generated much more discussion than the (admittedly rather easy) Prize.
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bigjack

4th July 2021, 18:57
Thanks, Brenadan. I was taking glib as part of the wordplay!
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rocky7

4th July 2021, 19:08
Geeker, now you mention it yes Everyman would imply it's a bit easier for all to have a go. Certainly in the past the prize on a Saturday was far tougher. Less so now I would say as we have discussed on here.

Last week's Everyman was more like the old days. Almost a write in. Today I prefer. Just a bit more grey matter required.
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gravyanecdote

4th July 2021, 19:28
Hello! I'm stuck on 11d. I'm pretty sure the answer is... a metallic style of clothing, right? But I cannot parse the homophone at all.

Can anyone put me out of my misery? Thank you!
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brendan

4th July 2021, 19:33
Hi Gravyanecdote,

11d - A "crofter" is a farmer so ....

PS - Welcome to the Forum:-)
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will4jan

4th July 2021, 20:17
Lots to enjoy in the crossword and lots to enjoy in the forum as well. FOI 1a, LOI 22d (thanks Jono @30) and COD 12a with 19a a close second. We read 7d at school and I seem to remember finding it hard going.

On 22d, I was trying to do something with piles without the p. I enjoyed Phil10000's Yips which is a bit close to home at the moment!

Coffindodger's comment @59 re 13d is great but Catcharmer @64 must have been a bit disappointed for the PDM to take so long given his handle!
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luko

4th July 2021, 21:22
Definitely more stretching than the everyday Everyman this week, and I agree the clues are a curious mixture of dead-straightforward and more-complicated-than-you-expect. Foi 6a, LOI the correction to 22d, I think the 10a/25a pair gets COD. I was slow to 19a: long ago, I got an H in my Latin O-level so I don't regard D and E as all thatbhad!
If 11d is a homophone, we could probably count 8d & 14d as a second rhyming pair?
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luko

4th July 2021, 21:25
Forgot to add, thanks to Everyman-and thanks to all the contributors here, particularly for straightening my lies in 22d and for other parsing PDMs.
See you next week, have fun and take care (keep those masks on!)
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