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norah (admin)

23rd September 2023, 03:46
The clues...
Requests for help should normally include the clue itself, the number of letters in the answer, and details of any you already have. If the preamble gives specific instructions or additional information, this should be included too.
Hints only, please, no answers.

The theme...
Help with the theme may also be sought here. The 'help' shouldn't be overly generous - or overly miserly! - but should be enough to give a nudge, a pointer in the right direction. Please don't include information that would spoil the puzzle for others. Any queries or replies that - even inadvertently - reveal too much are likely to be removed.

The Listener is a unique puzzle and should be treated with respect.
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norah (admin)

23rd September 2023, 03:53
I have deleted Malone’s thread and started a fresh one, I am not having the Listener thread degenerating into a slanging match, you are acting like children in the playground.

We do not encourage breach of copyright laws, I know the odd one sneaks in now and again and we made an exception during COVID but it is better that we adhere to the laws of the land in this instance.

I apologise if there were some genuine questions in amongst the melee, if there were then can you please ask again in this new thread.
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buzzb

23rd September 2023, 07:14
Where is the new thread?
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malone

23rd September 2023, 07:20
It's this one, Buddy! As Norah said, if there were questions in the other one, people can ask again here. I don't know if there were resolved queries, unresolved queries, just comments on the puzzle.
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hotelwhiskey7

23rd September 2023, 08:29
Oh, that's very satisfying - a clever device [though it has been used before somewhere] and one of the most unambiguous endgames you could have.

Thanks Hawk.

hw7
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ukridge

23rd September 2023, 08:35
I have a full grid and the hint provided by the misprints, but my compass points don't seem to work, even though they all seem correct. My last line does not meet a previously drawn line. I have two cardinal points and one intercardinal point, in both the across clues and the down clues. Does that sound right?
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hotelwhiskey7

23rd September 2023, 08:42
It isn’t right. You may not be using all of the wordplay in 34A, or missing a wordplay-generated point in the downs.

The line termination is as described in the preamble.
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ukridge

23rd September 2023, 08:43
Thank you HW7. I will have another look.
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ukridge

23rd September 2023, 09:00
HW7, is intercardinal, cardinal, cardinal in the down clues correct?
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hotelwhiskey7

23rd September 2023, 09:04
Again no, with apologies.

Obviously the endgame relies on precise parsing, accounting for every letter of wordplay. A relook at 31 would be worthwhile…
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