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12barblues

23rd July 2023, 16:26
Not all the answers are words after thematic treatment, but become words in after you deduce two further entries
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granama1

23rd July 2023, 16:27
Dylan, 10d I think of a Scottish term for police (think of bees sort of thing), 15d is more often used about shares. 17d is a word relating to what 'number ones' produce (Number two rhyming with what it produces 😄).
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granama1

23rd July 2023, 16:28
Ah, I may have misunderstood the problem...see the other responses. 👍
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mullingar

23rd July 2023, 18:08
Hello all, i think I've hit those familiar buffers. Full grid apart from the two unclued and not a scooby what to do next. I can see two thematics clearly in the grid but can't find the 4 letter third and may be impeded by not remembering the hare xword. I can see that the crossing letters could all be first letters of thematic items as mentioned in an earlier post, but so what? I can also see which letters must be changed to create real down answers. Is it too early to ask for a nudge or possibly a push in the right direction?
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lumen

23rd July 2023, 18:25
I was a bit stumped on the left hand unclued till I realised there were two possibilities for making 10d into a real word. I had entered the wrong one. Does that help at all?
I don't think anyone wants to steal your penny drop moment.
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jack aubrey

23rd July 2023, 18:54
As Lumen says, a nudge - given what you’ve already spotted -would inevitably be a massive shove over the line. Earlier advice to Google what the thematic items constitute might help you to the PDM. We’ll await the clang!
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mullingar

23rd July 2023, 20:12
Well firstly let me thank you for your restraint with the nudges. The alternative ending for 10down and a bit of googling sorted me out and I welcomed the confirmatory original crossing letters. I saw the fourth ex loco item and I think that wraps it all up. Appreciated the crossword and appreciate the crossword community on here. A welcome distraction as I am currently recovering from a broken hip having fallen off my bike last Saturday -ouch. Many thanks
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jack aubrey

23rd July 2023, 20:19
Sorry to hear about the fall. All the best for a speedy recovery.
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mullingar

23rd July 2023, 22:19
Thanks Jack
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will37

24th July 2023, 03:23
Gratitude to those (acornz #25 and Brendan #43) whose subtle hints enabled me finally to solve the shading problem late on Sunday morning.
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