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candledave

28th October 2021, 11:56
smellyharry

1. It can be used as a preservative
2. Look up bd in Chambers and the letter N is spelt out
3. Competitor is entrant - replace TR (Trustee) with F (Following)
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turast

28th October 2021, 14:38
I'm sure I've completed this entirely correctly, but I am still struggling to identify the exact meaning of "the extra letters giving hints to the thematic source".

The first hint might give four words meaning variously
Plates of meat
Set of cards
Vile
3rd person plural subject pronoun
Arrived
Relics
No tennis points

The second hint could lead to
The Mill on the Floss
or
Catch 22
or...
Can anybody narrow this down for me?
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crates

28th October 2021, 15:37
Turast - The first hint refers to last lines (not words) - the extra words should indicate which ones. The second hint - read penultimate word as an anagrind .... and last word as what appears above the grid...
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jif73

29th October 2021, 16:20
Well, that was a marathon for me! I finally finished last night, but I had the much-posted problems with 5ac, 5dn, 10ac and the NW quadrant in general, so I didn't look at it for a few days. Many thanks to all who posted replies to queries here, some of which got me on the right track.

Thanks to Banjaluka for a cleverly-constructed puzzle with an unambiguous, well-shaped area to highlight -- much better than the one I suggested the compiler of Listener 4681 had in mind to compensate for the missing words at the start of the thematic quotation!
I did, however take issue with the second sentence in the preamble: "Ten clues to non-clashing answers each contain an extra word, hinting at THE thematic material (47 cells…) that ALONG WITH two figures…". To me, this indicates that the two figures do NOT form part of the thematic material. I can see the reason for making the two figures separate as they are not covered by the two hints to the thematic source derived from the extra letter removed from 26 clues. The two figures, however, ARE required by the final instruction given in order to complete the puzzle.
In the second sentence in the preamble, removing THE from "...the thematic material…" and amending "...along with two figures…" to "... along with A FURTHER two THEMATIC figures…" would have removed this problem".

Dismounting from my high horse, I really liked the clue at 31ac. Having reviewed the grid again just now, I thought yet again that the answer must have been put there to aid the inclusion of thematic material. Looking into this notion, I discovered a dogleg Easter egg -- doglegg? -- beginning at the first cell of 24 ac/dn. Neat!

Finally, I've come unstuck with two puzzles during 2021 by not seeking help with parsing clues, so help with the following would be much appreciated:

10ac This must be a 'normal' clue. I can see the answer and I'm taking 'increasingly' as an indicator of a comparative, but what is 'Sturgeon's' role in the wordplay? Seems redundant to me.

30ac Am I right in thinking the third word contains an extra letter and the answer is an anagram of O(ld) + SOD?

4dn I'm taking this to be an '&lit' clue with the answer being a Shakespearean character, but surely another character better fits the Bill… (Geddit?)
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dsc

29th October 2021, 18:57
Hi jif73,
My take on it is:

10a (Nicola) Sturgeon's increasingly meaningless suggests that the answer is a Scottish word;

30 one of the Os in root is redundant so O sod to rot, ie anagramised:

4 &lit indeed for the clue per se suggests Goneril. I think so anyway!

I agree that the preamble could have been a little more precise; indeed my complaint about the thematic material would be that it doesn't comprise the whole final shape, but it's only a small grumble...

4683 tomorrow - yay!
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