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cretin66

21st October 2020, 22:00
Working backwards, PIRATE as the answer works - as an anagram of RAT PIE.
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quisling

22nd October 2020, 08:40
Interesting idea. But rather than as an anagram, wouldn’t it work better as an insert, ie RAT in PIE? I think Pie containing Rat is plausibly repulsive
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cretin66

22nd October 2020, 10:29
Agreed!
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cretin66

24th October 2020, 18:57
And now the Times from back in 1973;
No warm handshake from her at last (4)
-I-I and I'm not really veering towards anything
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quisling

24th October 2020, 19:20
It looks like a reference to the tragic Mimi in La Boheme. When Rodolfo meets her he says “Che gélida manna”, what a cold little hand, and she is finally given a muff, but dies.
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quisling

24th October 2020, 19:48
Manina, not manna*
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cretin66

24th October 2020, 22:06
Wow. I wouldn't have picked up that reference in a proverbial month of Sundays! Although I have heard of "your tiny hand is frozen".
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quisling

24th October 2020, 22:52
Exactly that, a more common translation of the aria. I’m not dogmatic, and always happy to see a better idea if anyone has one. Hard to see any wordplay in the clue, and nothing to suggest Kiki, Fifi, Gigi, or anything else to me. I started doing the Times crossword in the 70s, and there were still a few clues like that.
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cretin66

25th October 2020, 13:17
Continuing the 1970s Times cryptics.
Wherein Tom in capital form appears to make a witticism (7,5)
LOOKING GLASS
We suspect another literary allusion, but all I have is Alice (no help there) or cats looking at kings.
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malone

25th October 2020, 13:24
If Tom looked in the answer, he'd see Mot, a witticism?
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