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tyke51

10th September 2020, 00:03
SOBER SONNET ... sounds more lyrical?
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cretin66

10th September 2020, 11:03
It's one of these where you don't have any of the vowels, so the consonants in order are RSSBNNT
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quisling

10th September 2020, 11:17
I'm not sure if this completely answers the question, but I've located what I assume is the intended poem.

Rose Leaves

by Henry Austin Dobson

I intended an Ode,
And it turned to a Sonnet.
It began à la mode,
I intended an Ode;
But Rose cross'd the road
In her latest new bonnet; I intended an Ode;
And it turned to a Sonnet.

I can only find it attributed to Dobson, and not Leigh Hunt. Maybe someone else knows more
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quisling

10th September 2020, 12:01
Btw, it would have been helpful to know at the outset it was that type of clue with those letters. I too went down the "sober sonnet" path of searching for other anagrams
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cretin66

10th September 2020, 13:39
Yes, apologies. As I was certain I had the right answer, I omitted that salient piece of info!
But now I still struggle with the Leigh Hunt ode reference...
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quisling

10th September 2020, 15:25
I do too. My working assumption is that Araucaria might have referenced the wrong poet. If you replace Leigh Hunt with Dobson the clue makes perfect sense. Or else Dobson was echoing an earlier poem from Leigh Hunt, but I can only find one reference he ever made to a bonnet, and it doesn’t mention roses. I hate assuming that setters have made a mistake, because 95% of the time the failure is on the part of the solver. So I look forward to being corrected
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jono

10th September 2020, 15:33
I wonder if this is a reference to Hunt’s famous poem ‘Jenny Kiss’d Me’, which is not a sonnet nor any conventional form of the time. Dobson came after Hunt so was undoubtably influenced by him. If so, it’s a very tangential reference and I can’t find anything that connects the two works. My sister is an English professor and she doesn’t know either. It’s probably something more obvious!
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jono

17th September 2020, 19:41
Lio, pum, tig, etc (4,4)

A friend sent this to me. Araucaria I’m told. Please just a hint rather than the answer
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chrise

17th September 2020, 19:44
don't know the answer, but they are all incomplete names of a similar type
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jono

17th September 2020, 19:58
Oh! I think I have it, thanks Chris. Cats with their ‘tails’ shortened. I like it
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