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pigale

10th December 2015, 11:47
Hi everyone,

Rusty and/or Elle,

Matter of interest to me, regarding that clue yesterday :
'Refuse to move round secondary bit of Putney Heath, perhaps westward (8)'
for the which the answer is 'detritus' - (a word used commonly in France by the way, probably due to its Latin origin)
Could you parse it for me?

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malone

10th December 2015, 11:59
It's quite convoluted, Pigale - and there's a very good parse on the Times For The Times website. Basically it has Stir for Move, U for the second bit/character in 'Putney' and Ted for Heath, a former British Prime Minister. Westward gives some reversing.
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pigale

10th December 2015, 13:45
Thanks Malone and sorry for delay in answering.

In other words, the clue had nothing to do with an area of London, but rather used a U and Heath for Ted. I mean no special knowledge of London involved. Rather complex anyway.

Thank you very much for explaining Malone
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malone

10th December 2015, 13:55
You're welcome, Pigale. I liked that Putney Heath was meaningless when it came to solving the clue!
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pigale

10th December 2015, 14:38
Precisely my point (and one of the reasons for asking the parsing), otherwise I would have given it as an example to dear Mr Rogan in my reply to him.
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malone

10th December 2015, 14:41
I don't know whether to apologise or not, but I actually enjoy and appreciate clues that send us off in the wrong direction (pun intended),
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pigale

10th December 2015, 15:16
Oh yes, so do I - it's just that at the moment Elle, Rusty and myself are on the war path because of too many 'Londonisms' /Cockney Rhyming Slang etc (ie fief) . But the Putney clue is not a 'Londonism', just a perfect cryptic clue.
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rusty

10th December 2015, 15:47
Good afternoon, Elle!
Yes, home from the dentist. We had a nice chat about writing to Santa!
I have not replied to Mr Rogan, yet. Not sure I shall.
I doubt he could add any more to what he has said already.
The thing is, Elle, we (including Pigale) brought certain things to his attention and he took the time and trouble to respond.
I think that'll do for me.
And I have already complimented him on the standard of his crosswords, which he appreciated.

Miss La Bamba gave me the elbow!!!
Something more important cropped up for her.
Possibly tomorrow, if she can fit me in. Granddaughters!
Did you buy your stamps and stuff?

Hello, Pigale,
Malone's parse was perfect.
I did today's crossword early today and I have forgotten it, but it was another good one!
Well done, Mr Rogan and team!
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elle

10th December 2015, 16:51
Hi, Rusty!
Oh dear, being stood up by a granddaughter.........so what have you been doing instead today?
I haven't achieved very much ....yes, I bought my stamps, but it took much longer than expected.
The local Post Office on the High Street was closed - whether temporarily or for good wasn't clear, so I had to go to the next village to buy my stamps!
Anyway, all done and dusted now - at least they are all stamped and awaiting posting in the morning!
I have yet to go to Bromley for some more positive shopping, but think it might have to wait until next week now ( not a job I relish for the weekend - the shops will be too crowded), as tomorrow I need to take a plant to the Crematorium, as it's my father's birthday.
We have an engraved marble slab in the ground, on which we can stand flowers or put plants in pots or tubs.
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rusty

10th December 2015, 17:23
Hello, Elle!
The shops will be pretty crowded any day now I would think!
I have had a quietish day.
Been watching Lindsey Vonn in the Alpine skiing from Lake Louise.
She is super!
And now the ice skating is on.
It has been quite cold here today. 3 C now.
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