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havermonkey

27th January 2024, 16:27
Have I got the crossers right? *G*I*S* ?

It's still hiding from me but will have another look thanks
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chrise

27th January 2024, 16:28
crossers are correct
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jono

27th January 2024, 16:37
Geeker@28, I was recalling this Philistine clue when I commented earlier…

Games of shaven swine? (5)

…which I now see was way back in 2013! It was the first time I think we saw this device (I could be wrong). The puzzle no. is 26,079 if anyone’s interested.
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geeker

27th January 2024, 16:42
Jono, I see...I was thinking of clues where punctuation is inserted to simulate stuttering.

That clue you cited is very tricky! I think a far more recent Prize clue (I forget the author, could it even have been Philistine?) was the subject of much discussion and criticism on the forum...I was stumped by it and had to seek guidance.
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geeker

27th January 2024, 16:44
I don't recall the puzzle or setter...it was a down clue in the SE quadrant.
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geeker

27th January 2024, 16:49
Found it. Philistine, 21 down (SW quadrant) in Prize 29,201.
A hommage to / variant of the classic jono cited.
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geeker

27th January 2024, 16:50

brendan

27th January 2024, 16:58
I think there was a similar clue a few years ago and the "shaven swine" clue was mentioned then. I think it was Jazzgirl who figured out the correct parsing, if memory serves.
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brendan

27th January 2024, 17:00
Jono, you're the resident expert on these things - can you shed any light on this?
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geeker

27th January 2024, 17:07
Here's the thread w. discussion from last October (29,021)

https://www.crosswordsolver.org/forum/884444/guardian-prize-29021/
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