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williamseal

17th October 2021, 09:13
Finished now, thanks to help from the above posts. However I still think I may be missing something. Is there something clever in the positioning in the grid of the nine-letter thematic items? If this is not the case it seems to me that it could refer to an Abba song rather than the title of the puzzle?
I've spent a lot of time grid staring so any indication would be most welcome.

(again Mrs Seal sends her thanks to Malone and others who keep me quiet on a Saturday when we have enough herring on the sandbank)
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hotelwhiskey7

17th October 2021, 09:45
Yes, positioning is significant. Google the Unicode in the previous post…
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ortolan

17th October 2021, 11:28
I've managed to finish this one but am still very frustrated by a clue from last week. Is it valid to ask for a hint here as the 4680 thread seems to have wrapped up? Set text charms?
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quisling

17th October 2021, 11:31
Four letter word for goggle box, followed by three letter abbreviation for something you send on a phone. Charms is the definition
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ortolan

17th October 2021, 11:37
At last! For this relief, much thanks, Quisling.
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murky

17th October 2021, 12:10
Williamseal, the nine-letter thematic items are placed directly below five entries that are thematically related to the quotation reference in the title.

I do not know what hotelwhiskey7 is getting at. The items are not in the shape given by his unicode. One might draw that shape by tracing a path through an alternating sequence of the last and first letters of those five entries, on top of the shape given by the nine-letter items, but there is nothing in the puzzle or the quotation to suggest one should. It seems a completely fanciful idea to me.
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loge

17th October 2021, 12:42
I think what HW is alluding to is a point made by Jif73 earlier. If you draw a curved line around the outside of the highlighted cells, you get (sort of) a symbol used to represent the third (in KJV) word of the text. Yes it's fanciful and I'm not entirely convinced myself, but it is a possible interpretation of "the X of Y".
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hotelwhiskey7

17th October 2021, 12:55
Hi all, in good faith.

Yes, exactly that.

The widespread misquotation is that M is the R of A E.

The correct verse is that L of M is the R of A E; if this Listener has done nothing else, it's reinforced that point.

So I think that the full verse [as per the title] is fulfilled by: the symbol [as in I [symbol] NY], [made of] [thematic nine-letter words for coins, reinforced by the word spelled by the five blocked cells] is the [synonym for base] of all [five synonyms for nastiness] which appear above them.

OK, not a hill to die on, but I'm fairly sure the placement of the coins is non-arbitrary. We can just wait three weeks rather than argue about it in any case!

Trust all well with everyone -

hw7
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williamseal

17th October 2021, 13:10
Thanks all - good enough for me! an enjoyable romp.
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jamesa

17th October 2021, 16:41
Despite all the hints above I still can't see the final step. I can see the five synonyms and that they are similarly placed above the barred-off cells. Presumably the five thematic items in the 9 cells are not actual words? In column 7 the synonym seems to take up almost the whole column, so where does the thematic item go? I expect the answer will be obvious when I understand it but I am baffled at the moment!
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