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jazzgirl

3rd July 2018, 19:43
Oh dear
I was agreeing that it was a double definition. No need to revolve anything in the wordplay

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jazzgirl

3rd July 2018, 19:51
Elle, do you agree with my def. 1 ?
Have you ever tried to reverse through a revolving door ? It's impossible :)
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elle

3rd July 2018, 20:02
The problem, JG, is that "rood "/ cross needs to be reversed to make "door"...…..there is no instruction for such until you have the answer…..
Why is the instruction to "reverse" only seen in the answer and not in the clue?
I am perhaps not explaining myself very well....
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rusty

3rd July 2018, 20:05
Hello, Elle!
Inishowen is the Northernmost part of Ireland although it is not in Northern Ireland.
My family are from the part known as The Rosses, including Carrickfinn.
The Rosses is part of the Gaeltacht, the Irish speaking part.
Actually there are complaints about the Open going to Ballyliffin because it is so remote.
Well, Donegal is remote! They knew that before they picked it!
Scenery is tremendous.
The Wild Atlantic Way runs all the way down to Cork.
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jazzgirl

3rd July 2018, 20:06
Forget about cross meaning rood. That is nothing to do with this clue.
The 'cross' in this clue refers to the crossing of us through the door.
The revolving door is making us cross into the hall, as we have no option but to do so. ..... we cannot go back.
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rusty

3rd July 2018, 20:08
Update, Elle!
The revolving door clue is the kind of clue that was very common 50 years ago in The Times.
Quite a few of this type in every Times crossword.
But thankfully they have evolved into the modern cryptic ones.
"Revolving door" is a throwback to the old days.
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jazzgirl

3rd July 2018, 20:13
The word 'cross' in this clue is a verb - to cross i.e. cross the road
and nothing to do with cross/rood
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elle

3rd July 2018, 20:24
I think I shall bow out gracefully here...and admit this is all beyond me!
If I carry on trying to fight my corner. we'll be here all night!
And we may never know what the compiler intended!
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jazzgirl

3rd July 2018, 20:28
We'll agree to disagree :)
As rusty says, there is a "revolving door" clue meaning rood/cross, but I think the setter would have put " it makes A cross" rather than "it makes US cross" hey ho. I am retiring for the night. Sleep cool !
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elle

3rd July 2018, 20:43
Hi, Rusty!
I have been Googling...... and looking at yet more photographs!
The Rosses is certainly a very lovely part of Ireland.
The Wild Atlantic Way runs a very long way!
I will have maybe told you that my son-in law's mother came from Waterford...of course very much further south.
He still has some family living here. although he himself was brought up in England.
I am turning my back on today's crossword!
We may never know what the setter meant by that clue.
Oh......I wonder if we can find the parsing on YouTube?
That chap that talks us through the crosswords?
I hadn't thought of that?
Worth a look?
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