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gitto

2nd September 2023, 10:29
Naughty! But does resolve both problems, now I need to try to understand the 7&8 letter clues,
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gitto

2nd September 2023, 10:57
Got the final words and the poem. Now more confused than before I got those!!!
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claretgold

2nd September 2023, 11:09
Currently just missing 16ac and 8dn, where I suspect one of these two (most likely 16ac) is shorter than the given space.

No idea on the names, but I'll probably need to neaten up the scruffy writing to find them.
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gitto

2nd September 2023, 11:24
16ac is shorter and a single word definition in 8d.
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claretgold

2nd September 2023, 11:36
thanks -- as is always the case, I found the solution very soon after posting :P

Now to figure out this endgame -- I can see two candidate names, but I find it surprising that they'd be part of the relevant five...
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gitto

2nd September 2023, 13:27
Another Saturday spent grid staring which is extremely annoying. As I have assumed "mutilated" means that the 5 names are treated in a similar fashion as to how the material removed from the 7&8 letter clues has been used, and that "in a row" refers to across entries, I can only find 2 names. Am I barking (up the wrong tree)?
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simond9x

2nd September 2023, 13:52
No, keep going

I’m all done but can’t see the wordplay in 16.
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gitto

2nd September 2023, 13:54
16ac - 2 abbreviations, one normal for temp and one from latin.
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gitto

2nd September 2023, 13:57
Sorry, all reversed (round)
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simond9x

2nd September 2023, 13:58
Thanks. Not sure what part the 5th word plays.
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