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Still a lap and a half behind, but have not quite given up. I have read the thread but despite the helpful hints, cannot make any sense of 8 down. I have VAL*R

Have I gone wrong?

Thanks all

WS. You’re on the right track

Opto at 80, glad to have been of some help. I have family in the area relevant to the down clue letters and had what I felt to be the great honour of being formally “adopted” into one of the indigenous groups, so I perhaps had an advantage in identifying the synonym - but have already confessed to using Google for confirmation!

Thanks SS - you are more patient than I deserve, Still can't get there. Could you give me nudge on Klose? All I can find fird is the unfortunate current Norwich City goalkeeper (not his fault) and a very successful German striker !

WS - it's the German striker you need. Look at his first name...

WS also look at posts 53 and 54

???????? I cannot agree with you as I cannot find any set of contiguous cells that give the missing name. Of all the occurrences of the 1st letter of that name, only 1 is close enough to any occurrence of the 5th letter and the only way to connect them in a way that completes the name is to have a diagonal move.


Amended by Admin - buzzb, apparently the word you typed was the ‘end game’ rather than the name of the person to whom you were replying.

Buzzb, I believe Murky’s view, though he may correct me, is that cells connected diagonally would be contiguous (see his post #64). Thus he sees that occurrence as a possible solution, ruled out only by the mathematical constraint of adding to 39 (or 40).

I consider contiguous to mean connected by a side, rather than a corner, so I wouldn’t consider it a possibility. Either way, it’s a shame it could not have been specified in the preamble.

You might wish to ask admin to remove the first word of your post

Apologies to all for my awful, inadvertent typo which has thankfully been corrected. Thanks, Norah, for fixing that!

I agree that the editors might have been clearer about what contiguous means, though I don't think it's normal to say that Arizona and Colorado are contiguous.

Nit-picking time! As one who has (once) visited Four Corners and walked round the central marker three times I can't see how, if AZ and CO are contiguous, UT and NM can be. But if UT and NM are contiguous - an example which could equally easily have been made - then A and CO can't. Surely contiguous implies more than just touching: the con- part must imply at least a degree of continuity in the touchingness - like a line, as distinct from a point. Two circles sharing a common point on their circumference are touching, but in this old fart's book contiguous they aint. Or am I raving?