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Thanks Norah. I'm not sure that dispensing with the @name posts will work, though - how would the person the post was intended for know that there was a new post on this thread? I suppose the @name could just say "See Coffee and Chat" thread.

btw nice clue in today's Guardian:
Crime writer — one with wicked output (8)

I was convinced that had to be ‘Christie’, especially with the first crosser. All too tempting to look for wordplay when a cryptic definition is staring you in the face!

ChrisE, Jono, I'm ashamed to say that it took me a little while to get that one!

When I see `wicked` in a clue I normally look for a candle connection

Looks like you scoffed all the cake Chrise! 🍰

I dislike cake, tyke, so I removed it!

“From thirty feet away she looked like a lot of class. From ten feet away she looked like something made up to be seen from thirty feet away.”

Aristophanes, that made me chuckle, but I couldn't help hearing a recurrent phrase from my childhood - 'Who's 'she'? The cat's mother?'.

If this was a local phrase, it might be meaningless to everyone else.

The phrase is familiar to me too, malone - in north Devon.

Re tyke51 @5, I find it interesting that you all use "scoff" where we use "scarf." I saw that use of scoff in a Times crossword, yesterday I think.