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Thanks, parallelogram - autocorrect has a lot to answer for! I should have paid more attention to what was appearing.

Parallelogram

Thank you. It just sounds odd but if you say it is acceptable, I will be happy to go along with it.

Malone

I was annoyed that I didn't solve the clue that LED to the latest -ess word in the Times, "patroness". I put in "lilywhite" which as I am sure you know is the nickname of Preston North End.

If lilywhite = fickle, it satisfies the clue, I think.

Malone

That's good football knowledge. I was surprised to see in the Times crossword yesterday that I was expected to know the German for dance - which I didn't. Surely that was an unreasonable clue though it was easy to guess.

I have done nothing but decorating in the last week or so. I haven't seen TV or listened to the radio and only read the sports pages. But my window cleaner rang today to say he is working from home. Have I missed something?

malone

yes i'm sure I've missed bits everywhere, but I am not going to look for them- it's taken too long already and I'm not bothered about perfection.

I liked the cricket clue in Times yesterday, though it took me ages to get.

Grunger,


Glad to hear you're not a perfectionist.
I'm afraid all cricket clues/answers are deleted from my brain instantly, though I can't even remember there being one!

Grunger and Jigjag

From today's Mephisto…

14 A. Golden hair concealing a powerful female speaker? (8)

Malone - spotting ' Hammers ' ( my team, coincidentally ! ) reminded me of a nice clue I saw for the word, which was
Share out around two thousand pounds

MalcomXword, that's a good clue - and no football knowledge necessary!

Malone

Yes all these recent -ess words indicate that the setters are reading this thread. I love the obscure ones, protectress, patroness and your nice one today.

You mention jigjag, but I think he has been self-isolating since well before the crisis. My trip to McD at Cheshire Oaks hoping to meet Ivor Berger is off, and I dont suppose if I tried to find Ivan Napple, it would be an essential journey, even if I do need fruit and veg.

MalcolmXword

Very nice West Ham clue

Grunger

Glad you're still enjoying the 'ess words - definitely better than 'eff' words!

A pity to hear that Jigjag's self-isolating, and from before the crisis too. He's maybe had enough of people, he bumped into so many characters!