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chrise

16th October 2017, 17:38
Rusty
Norn Iron reminds of the sarf London joke "How many Ls are there in "Millwall"?



None - it's pronounced MiWah
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rusty

16th October 2017, 17:43
Hello, Elle!
We will have to disagree on 7d, "turmeric"!
"Turm" is not a homophone of "term"!
To me anyway!
Right, down to work!
9a, is "diapason" "aid" "pa" son".
It means, in this case, a stop in an organ.
Shoetree is correct.
Herbert Beerbohm Tree was the old actor.
20D, is "Essene". The Essenes were an ancient Jewish sect.
"es", art, "environment is "scene", minus "c", last letter in academiC.
Hope that's understandable?
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rusty

16th October 2017, 17:47
Elle,
Anne Bradford has "Tree" under "actor".
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chrise

16th October 2017, 18:14
Turm=Term is better than many chefs can manage. I wince whenever one of them pronounces it "toomeric".
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rusty

16th October 2017, 18:24
Chris, this is the clue.
7d, Appellation (sound) Heather mostly used for condiment (8)
TurmEric(a)
Setter is using turm for term!
Not for me, I'm afraid!
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malone

16th October 2017, 18:36
Rusty, Chris, Elle...Turm for Term doesn't work at all for me either. Turmeric has the same beginning as Turmoil, Turpitude etc, Term is just T Er m!
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rusty

16th October 2017, 18:45
Hello, Malone!
I had a good idea you would disapprove of term/turm!
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elle

16th October 2017, 19:06
Try this
http://dictionary.cambridge.org/pronunciation/english/turmeric
"turmeric" is pronounced as "termeric" here.....
but I'm not intending to start WWIII !
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elle

16th October 2017, 19:17
Hi, Rusty!
I have never heard the word "diapason"?
This is completely new to me!
And I also do not know of " Herbert Beerbohm Tree".......
So I was never going to get either of those clues.
Thank you for helping me!
I should have got "Essene" though!
I shall kick myself with the un-wonky toe!!
Any more news from your relatives/ friends in Donegal and Norn Iron?
How are they coping with Hurricane Ophelia?
Are things all right at your end?
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rusty

16th October 2017, 19:34
Hello, Elle!
Your dictionary must be wrong, Elle.
In my humble opinion!
Now, I have seen "diapason" before, but had no idea what it meant.
So, when I saw it fitted, I looked up Chambers and it was a fit.
Anne Bradford has it under "stop", too.
Old Herbert Barebum Tree was a very well known actor in the distant past.
He was Oliver Reed's grandfather, too.
"Essene", I recognised, but was not at all sure what it meant.
There are power cuts in Donegal, and one friend in Comber has lost power.
The young ones are terrified the wi-fi will go down!
It is quite windy here but it will get worse in a couple of hours.
Cherry at the loch has Tweeted regrets that the webcam is down and it will be fixed in the future!
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