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chrise

16th June 2017, 15:31
Thanks jazzy - our complete failure to find a reference to it in rhyming slang resources was beginning to make us think that it wasn't!
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jazzgirl

16th June 2017, 15:32
Would you adam and Eve it Chris?
Just found this
http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/archive/index.php/t-145480.html
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chrise

16th June 2017, 15:40
Fascinating, jazzy!

I would tend to go along with the posters who doubted drum'n'bass, as the expression predates that form of "music" (though I was surprised that it went back as far as Fielding, though in a slightly different sense). The empty house theory also seems a bit off too, as a "drum" is an inhabited one, surely?

I like these discussion threads where everyone is convinced that they are correct, despite lack of evidence. I've made similar posts myself, in the past :)
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jazzgirl

16th June 2017, 15:43
Drum was never used for house in our family, although, as you know we have a few jazz drummers still going strong
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jazzgirl

16th June 2017, 15:50
Another answer was:
Goes back to roman times
Drom,meaning road or street
then in 1840 it meant cell or prison this changed to Drum,
meaning ,flat,house or dwelling.
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elle

16th June 2017, 17:07
Hi, Rusty!
I am very sorry for the delay in replying - I have been trying to console a friend who has had bad news about her dog.
The dog was rushed to the veterinary hospital this morning and is on a drip, but the diagnosis is not good.
I have been trying to explain how the disease will affect the animal and the necessary treatment.
I think my friend was just too upset to listen properly to the vet . She has left now - hopefully a little calmer.
We used to have Clydesdales on a nearby farm....... my previous dog learned, as a puppy, to "respect" horses by "meeting " them under supervision.
The owner would hold up a horse's hoof - so that the animal couldn't kick - and allow my pup to sniff around the horse.
It was a brilliant learning curve for him!
I could later take him anywhere in the countryside...across fields with wild horses, cows , whatever....and on the beach with horseriders....he was wonderfully behaved.
He would never chase /worry an animal (as unfortunately you do see some dogs doing) and never needed to be on the leash, save on the streets where it is a byelaw!
Now, regarding rhyming slang.....it is usually only the last word that needs to rhyme....eg apple and stairs= wife; trouble and strife = wife;
So no need for "frog" to rhyme...as "toad" rhymes with "road"!
(I seem to have started off a discussion by sending you that clue this morning!)
My toe is ...er.....painful...but improving (slowly)!
I am drinking tonic water...as apparently the quinine will help!
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elle

16th June 2017, 17:43
Sorry for typo, Rusty!
I have probably confused you even further!
That should have read "apples and pears" = stairs"!!!!!
The phone rang when I was typing...my multi-tasking went wrong!
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rusty

16th June 2017, 17:47
Hello, Elle!
Very good of you to look after your friend!
I like the big horses but could not identify the breeds.
I know the ground shakes when they trot by, though!
One last question about the slang.
What would go after "Tottenham Court"?
Is it "frog and toad" or simply "toad"?
Seems an awful palaver to me.
Improving toe is good!
I am watching the golf from Wisconsin.
Great day there!
I did not realise Wisconsin was so far North.
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elle

16th June 2017, 18:37
Hi, Rusty!
I really do not know about the "usage" of cockney slang......I only know some of the terms!
I think "frog and toad " is just a general word for "road"?
But I would suppose that if one wanted to put it at the end of a road's title, then it might well be "Tottenham Court frog and toad?
This is only a surmise, mind you......I am sure if it is wrong, someone will correct me!
I have been watching "Eggheads"...one of the Challengers was a finger print expert and crime scene examiner.
That must be an interesting profession.
I have only previously come across this in books.....!
How is Rickie getting on?
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rusty

16th June 2017, 18:58
Hello, Elle!
I am putting the slang carry on behind me.
I just wish the setters were less parochial.
Rickie has not started his second round yet.
He was out early yesterday, so will be teeing off later today.
One of my granddaughters has a degree in forensic science.
I have just discovered that my local ASDA is no longer open 24 hours, but from 5 a.m. to midnight.
Plenty enough for me.
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