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foinaven

4th February 2024, 16:32
I have a clash which does not seem to be resolvable using the 'two treatments'. I have what seem to be indisputable answers for 41a and 42d and they are both straightforward clues. However, they clash, and 41a also clashes with 38d.

The only possible way out this dilemma is that 41a is one of the entries which needs treating. However, even if that were the case, the only plausible entry is not in Chambers, though I cannot help feeling that it ought to be.
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will37

4th February 2024, 16:37
foinaven, you should have no clash twixt 41a & 42d. There is a clash between 41a & 38d which needs resolving.
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foinaven

4th February 2024, 17:34
Sorry, I meant 41a and 37d, and also 41a and 38d. So presumably the 'treatment' of this type of answer is not the same as those where the answer was too long for the space available.
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candledave

4th February 2024, 17:38
you’re close foinaven but your conclusion that the only way out of the issue is to change 41a is wrong

Do you have the quote?
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foinaven

4th February 2024, 17:51
Yes. I got the writer and the quote well before I had solved most of the clues. I think I now see the interpretation of the first part of the quote - which ought to be very much simpler to carry out that the second part. Thanks, Candledave (and also for spelling Foinaven right! It is only one metre short. There ought to be a puzzle in that)
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graham9perkins

4th February 2024, 20:45
Had an hour on this and I’m fairly confident about the writer. But cannot find a quote with second letter W. (I don’t think that’s giving away much, it seemed the most glaringly obvious misprint). Is the quote not googlable?
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jordan

4th February 2024, 20:55
Try Googling the writer's name & 1108.
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will37

4th February 2024, 21:02
It's in ODQ
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mullingar

4th February 2024, 21:06
Got there in the end and like others have said, it was a treat to be reacquainted with the writer and the work
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mullingar

4th February 2024, 21:15
And some great clueing Nudd. Well done
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