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chrise

23rd September 2023, 10:57
standard "touching", then take L off a word for a type of coal
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pauly

23rd September 2023, 11:17
Thanks Chrise, always one (or more) where I'm a bit dense :-)
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neville17

23rd September 2023, 11:59
Thanks ChrisE, I see it now!
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geeker

23rd September 2023, 12:10
I saw the stuff on the fringes, thought it was a possible Nina (boxer, bloom, colour), but rejected the theory because the rest of the fringe didn't add up. Neglected to search elsewhere.

More kudos to Picaroon, thanks jono.
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chrise

23rd September 2023, 12:50
All the ones I've found are round the outside, geeker.
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geeker

23rd September 2023, 13:04
Thanks, chris. So it is a proper Nina. Don't recall Picaroon ever going for one. My total ignorance regarding the relevant subject didn't help. :-)
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davel

23rd September 2023, 13:04
Definitely on the hard side I’d say. Started off very slowly, FOI was 24d! As usual with Picaroon, fair clues throughout. COD 11, LOI was 6d which is my only minor quibble - not happy with the definition, but I’m probably wrong. No idea what the gimmick is, I’ve looked round the edge and can’t see any 15s.
Thanks to Picaroon.
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davel

23rd September 2023, 13:08
Ok, got the gimmick now. Very good, certainly wouldn’t have seen that myself.
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minno

23rd September 2023, 15:48
I can't parse 25a. Two letters taken out?
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chrise

23rd September 2023, 15:51
i see what you are thinking, but there's a synonym for shirkers that only needs one letter removing
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