I disagree that the first, third and fourth letters of 8D are a form of music that involve shouty talking though. There's a lot of rubbish but everyone likes Public Enemy surely, can be very poetic or deep e.g. "Snakes crawling up the lines of design", "I got a letter from the government, the other day, I opened and read it, it said they were suckers! They wanted me for the army or whatever, picture me giving a damn, I said never". Can also be very silly when Flava Flav (he knows what time it is) has the mic.