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Orson, jigjag

I mostly agree about no upper case for 'the...' but I would make an exception for 'The Times' because it is what appears on its front page and it thus distinguishes itself from the many other newspapers which have 'Times' in their names.

I can also make a case for 'The Derby' as it is such an iconic race. But then how far do I go? 'The Grand National' (yes), 'The 2000 Guineas' (probably not). I'm getting in a mess!

I've heard a London football club being called the Arsenal, but no big T for me there.

Pedants might enjoy 13d in the Guardian today ...

Thanks, Jono, I liked that one! I don't like this in today's Times...

17 Daily column includes a drawing (8)

Has anyone - in the real world, not Crosswordland - referred to a 'daily' or the first part of the answer in the last 20 or 30 years? Not only do I think it's dated, I feel it's lazy setting.

I’m with you Malone, I’m sure there’s a better clue involving a fish!

Paul

My rough cough and hough ought to plough me through the borough lough, though not without a hiccough.

malone

I agree. I have worked as a cleaner and would have been annoyed if a client had referred to me as the daily or ****

Grunger, thanks. Some clues make me feel I'm in a Miss Marple story!

jigjag

sorry to hear you are not well

Jigjag, I know how much this will please you ... maybe you need a furlough?

Malone

Thanks, I do need one, in 2 senses. I had never heard of the word until the crisis and I am sure it is being pronounced incorrectly. There must be a pronunciation which will give an 11th variation of -ough. Any ideas?