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sunray

19th August 2018, 17:38
In most clues, the wordplay leads to the defined answer and an additional letter not to be entered in the grid.

20 Queen, perhaps in the manner of son, from the outset ignores any small talk (9, two words)

Thanks.
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chips

19th August 2018, 18:02
The answer to the clue itself is 7,3 - that should help with the second word!
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sunray

19th August 2018, 18:19
Thanks chips. No bright light yet.

I have two other answers. The answers are one letter longer than grid entry, after eliminating the additional letter in word play.

Does this mean more than one letter goes in some cells?
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ginge

19th August 2018, 18:32
Hi sunray, when you have cold solved quite a few you'll notice 1 letter appearing (sometimes more than once in cases where the grid length is more than 1 cell shorter than the answer) in all answers.
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sunray

19th August 2018, 18:42
Thanks ginge.
I started entering as many letters as I can.
The clues look difficult to crack.
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malone

19th August 2018, 18:51
Sunray, I found some of the clues really tough - and had to work backwards in places!
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sunray

19th August 2018, 19:16
Thanks malone.
Very slow progress for me.
Out of 9 letter word play, you drop one and get the answer. For Grid entry, you drop another.
So now two letters are dropped for 7 letter grid entry. Which extra one to keep?

A hint on 1a would help me start inputting 1d, 2d, 3d.
Sign crews (oddly, after boat capsized) (5)
Traces?
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sunray

19th August 2018, 19:19
1a. Sign could be Pisces but why Sip for boat?
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malone

19th August 2018, 19:20
Sunray, the significant part of the theme answers that!
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sunray

19th August 2018, 19:21
sorry.Not thinking. SHIP returned plus CES.
First H is dropped and then I is dropped.
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