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rusty

27th October 2017, 13:27
Hello, Elle!
I am about 1 mile North East of Invergowrie, maybe less.
If I walk to Invergowrie it is downhill all the way.
I think a rook makes a cawing sound, like a crow does, but I can not tell a crow from a rook.
In the game of chess there are "rooks" and "rook" is abbreviated to "r".
A "craw" is a name for a throat.
If you remove "r/rook" from "craw" you have "caw".
Could a "caw" come from a rook's throat?
I think that is about it?
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chrise

27th October 2017, 13:30
Hi rusty
It used to a reliable guide that if you saw 1 or 2 rooks, they were crows; if you saw 3 or more crows, they were rooks. However recently they have not been following the rules round here!
Do you get black crows where you are, or are they all "hoodies"?
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elle

27th October 2017, 14:08
Hi, Rusty!
Thank you for that!
My problem came from not having heard of the word "craw"!
And from the clue itself, there is no way of knowing that.
Yes, I see it now!
I think that a rook has whitish skin around its beak?
Whilst a carrion crow is all black?
The crows in our park, though, are not solitary...... they do move about in small groups.
They are fairly tame, being used to people and dogs about.
I have made a start on today's 15 x15!
So far...I like11a!
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rusty

27th October 2017, 15:42
Hello, Elle!
I have finished my puzzle.
I was ages trying to nail the parse for 3d, but I got there.
To me it appears the setter has a superfluous word.
The clue works with or without the word.
A good puzzle, though, well up to the usual for a Friday.

Chris, it is mainly seagulls we see around here.
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elle

27th October 2017, 17:29
Hi, Rusty!
What a wonderful day it has been -- but very much colder!
I have worn a padded jacket when out.
( My gloves stayed in my pocket though!)
Yes, on the whole I agree.... I think it is a good puzzle, but I have a couple of hiccoughs.....
Now, I couldn't even DO 3d, let alone parse it!
I have P?E? - F?C?D
No ideas........
2d : I have "bravado" = game show (def)
I thinks its "ado" - trouble
b - British
RA - artist
But cannot account for the "v"?
What am I missing here?
I got the homophone though in 5d!
"nose job" sounds like knows job"!
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rusty

27th October 2017, 17:40
Hello, Elle!
Same here.
Great day but cold!
Friday's puzzle is normally a hardish one.
3d, Is "Open Faced" for ingenuous.
Old is "o", bird female is "pen", given coat is "faced".
I struggled because of "female".
Female is superfluous.
A "pen" is a female bird.
The "v" in bravado is "See", think "V" for Vatican City,
Have a look in Chambers for "V".
Must dash, got toast on!
Any more problems just shout!
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rusty

27th October 2017, 17:46
Update, Elle,
"v" is also the abbreviation, apparently, for the Latin "vide", which I think may mean "see".
So take your pick, "v" or "V" !
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rusty

27th October 2017, 17:50
Elle, I have found, "vide infra" meaning "see below",
and "vide supra" meaning "see above"
Vide means "see, consult, refer to"
Amen!
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elle

27th October 2017, 18:43
Hi, Rusty!
I do hope you didn't burn your toast?
Thank you for your explanations.....
So "faced" means "coated with"?
I would never have gotten that!
Well done!
The phrase "Veni, vidi, vici" - "I came, I saw, I conquered" attributed to Julius Caesar - did cross my mind..... but I had never come across a "V" as an abbreviation for any of those words.
It did not occur to me, as it did to you, to check under V" in Chambers!
I am feeling a bit of an inefficient idiot!
PS. What did you have with/ on your toast?
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rusty

27th October 2017, 19:15
Hello, Elle!
I put Lurpak salted butter on my toast.
If you look in Chambers you will see that a meaning of "face" is "the front or surface of anything.
So coat just about means that.
As in a coat of paint, possibly.
"See" is under "V" in Anne Bradford's Dictionary, too.
There is another abbreviation in 20d, "PPE" for "course".
I came across this before.
It is a University Course of "Philosophy, Politics and Economics".
Non-uni folk like me would struggle with it.
Make good use of your Dictionaries, they will help you.
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