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merenz

5th December 2021, 12:24
Just spotted Loge further down… phew! I’ll stop worrying 😁 I’m blaming ‘thread’ confusion
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smellyharry

5th December 2021, 12:24
Replying to simple Simon, ploughty was correct in suggesting there should be an x? Normal terminology would require an x between the two letters for that move wouldn't it?
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loge

5th December 2021, 12:29
Many thanks for your concern, Merenz. I didn't contribute to the numerical puzzle thread as I don't do those, but otherwise I'm just as irritatingly present as ever!
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simplesimon

5th December 2021, 12:46
SH. Yes normally an X would be used. I understand why Lath was constrained in this instance because it was indicating part of the journey as it were. The destination, or target, is the interesting part of the debate, and possibly subject to the first part of the message. But what to do next, there lies the debate 🤔😉
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smellyharry

5th December 2021, 12:55
Why would it be subject to the first part of the message, its outside the boundary of what that applies to? Otherwise all the letters that make up the answer have gone.
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loge

5th December 2021, 13:01
Strictly speaking, there would only be one letter and one number in the first two stages of the sequence, right? Like the missing X, I guess Lath had to make small compromises in order to have a consistent way of indicating the sequence. For what it's worth, I have put what is displaced in stage 7 into the blank cell. I'm not 100% certain that's right, but it works for me.
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quisling

5th December 2021, 13:19
Loge, I came to the same conclusion as you. It’s the most logical solution. There is no possessive involved in the final answer
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simplesimon

5th December 2021, 13:30
SH, would have preferred the first part of the message to come after the “sequence”. Then its action can refer to what takes place at that point and thus removing an appropriate item to the final destination. In this regard we agree with Loge and Quisling. Cannot think what it could mean if applied before the sequence.
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murky

5th December 2021, 14:26
Merenz writes below: "The ‘answer’ isn’t spelt out visibly in the grid (eg in a nice diagonal). Rather it is spelt in order by each move, in turn." This echoes what buzzb said earler.

As I hinted earlier, the trouble is that the answer is spelled out by six of the 'pieces' (i.e. letters) that move in the sequence presented in the clues, plus the final displaced letter. One letter moves twice, but it's second occurence has to be ignored since the answer has only one instance of each letter.
The sentence before the penultimate one is inaccurate because it implies something that isn't true.
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smellyharry

5th December 2021, 14:58
So I think we're broadly all in agreement that the notation from the seven clues is a bit off in places (1,2,7) but understandable and done to make them consistent.

The sequence doesn't actually spell what it is supposed to because of the double move of one letter, which is slightly unfortunate, but hard to see how you could get round this.

I still don't see the ambiguity, but maybe I'm missing something. You do the first thing (ETL), then the second thing (PATM), then fill the barred cell, then you're done. I can't see where any ambiguity is.

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