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jono

28th September 2021, 16:00
Thanks Paul, as I thought, but better to check. I much prefer the ODE definition of “street” in that sense than those in Chambers or Collins
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spike2

28th September 2021, 20:55
Listen to David Hockney's doublespeak? (7,5)
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mathprofrockstar

29th September 2021, 01:59
Bubble and squeak is Greek to me. (7,5)

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aristophanes

29th September 2021, 02:15
Bargain jargon (7,5)
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paul

29th September 2021, 03:54
Jon - since I don’t possess any paper copies of dictionaries, I am curious what the OED def is? ( Can’t find it online…)
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jono

29th September 2021, 04:48
Paul, it’s the ODE rather than OED, but I thought it was rather more positive than the Chambers entry …

ODE
“Relating to the outlook, values, or lifestyle of those young people who are perceived as composing a fashionable urban subculture”

Chambers
“Characteristic of the streets or of the people who frequent them, esp the poor, the homeless, prostitutes, and petty criminals”
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paul

29th September 2021, 06:21
Jon; On that basis o would agree! But forgive my ignorance, what is the ODE?
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jono

29th September 2021, 08:42
The Oxford Dictionary of English (not to be confused with the Oxford English Dictionary!). The ODE is more inclined to towards modern usage and newer words, whereas the OED is better for origins of words and archaic meanings, in my experience.
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fieryjack

29th September 2021, 11:11
Jono please disregard 9
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spike2

29th September 2021, 17:58
Last attempt.....

Outspoken David Hockney's doublespeak? (7,5)
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