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Thanks Brendan. And sorry Malone. Makes sense now.

Stuck on last four in Observer Everyman 3,822. Would be grateful for help with 14A "Twisted mess, they say? It's not oblique." (5, 5). I have RIGHT .N... but realise that may not be accurate. Also 10A "Oriental force, hostile and red" I have ..I...I

My thanks

Johnpuzzle

14 think of a shape...say the answer quickly for 'twisted mess'..

10 3 letter 'life force'+ 4 letter word meaning 'opposed to'

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Got one of them but would still welcome help on 10A:
Oriental force, hostile and red. I have: C.I...I
and 7D:
Leaves tip? Everyman has. I have: ...i.e

Thanks in anticipation of a nudge or two.

Johnpuzzle

Please could someone give me the solution to 17 Across

Primarily dim and fairly thick? (4)

(I would prefer the answer rather than a hint! Thanks!)

17a: daft (first letters)

10a: chianti = red (def)
chi - oriental force
anti - hostile

7d: endive = leaves (def)
end- tip
I've - Everyman has

Thanks Scorpiojo. Got them both. Last one to do is 7D: .n.i.e

Clue is: Leaves tip? Everyman has (6)

Johnpuzzle

John, Elle has answered that - just above your post.