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bananabean

18th August 2019, 18:51
Thanks, ginge, that was my logic but unless you are referring to a backward PATERN I can't see what you mean
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ginge

18th August 2019, 18:57
Hi again bananabean, the 22 letters are 11 letters repeated in the same order.
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ginge

18th August 2019, 18:59
should have added, the same order in the loop (not the grid).
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bananabean

18th August 2019, 19:00
Thanks, ginge, for the answer to my prayers :)
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bunty

18th August 2019, 20:10
Help please with...
1d Diplomacy in poor taste without keeping spy chief informed about political developments (13) ??????M????I?

3d Castrated beasts without issue while hiding female deer (7)
????O?S

28d Ordinary elements of society, not completely stupid (6) ????S?
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ginge

18th August 2019, 20:18
Hi Bunty,
1d. taste* + (spy chief) in synonym of without + synonym of informed ...
3d. Female deer in (abbreviation for without issue + synonym of while)
28. Societ(y)*
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bunty

18th August 2019, 20:35
bah! i had 1 d but couldn't see why. Thanks ginge
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casanova

19th August 2019, 06:28
I have a full grid and I have ascertained the 22 letters in the loop. However, I cannot see how new words are formed by moving the loop round and round. Also I cannot see the name responsible for moving up and down (6,4:separated by one cell). Any hints would be very much appreciated.
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casanova

19th August 2019, 07:16
Managed to see how the 22 letters go round and round forming new words, but I still cannot see the name responsible for moving up and down.
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xwordfan

19th August 2019, 08:11
31a Immediately got oneself wheels (3) NOW?

2d Experience of the dead left heirs desolate (6) ?E??S? relish?
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