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paulhabershon

1st September 2020, 22:26
jigjag

wend/wind

Although both mean proceeding in an indirect line, I think 'wind' implies the movement of something lengthy such as a river or a herd of cattle strung out (as in Gray's elegy).

However, the clincher in the clue is that E is a compass point and I is not. I don't think 'win' is a close enough definition of three points.

The issue of a random selection of letters occurring twice in the same crossword may well be controversial. I know the Times would not have more than one 'hidden word' clue, for example.
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tyke51

1st September 2020, 23:36
Wend seems to be the best answer - I think the setter was clever in knowing that, to sporting people, a `win` in footyball is a `three pointer` - I smell a red herring!
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orson

2nd September 2020, 12:11
Happy birthday fits and GGAG are the first few notes, though that would be in rather a high key. CCDC would have done just as well.

But why the hyphen between the two Gs? And there are very many tunes that begin with those notes. Sorry, but I'm not impressed.
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malone

2nd September 2020, 12:18
Jono, I solved the clue last night, but only through using a wordwizard thing. I have to say I was completely underwhelmed. Sorry!
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jono

2nd September 2020, 12:27
It’s been suggested that the hyphen is indicative of the dotted quaver - semi-quaver notation which is often how the first two notes are expressed.
I‘m not defending it by any means!
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jono

2nd September 2020, 12:29
No need to apologise Malone, I only mentioned it in the context of musical notation. I wish I hadn’t!
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jigjag

2nd September 2020, 12:40
ChrisE

Thanks for that. If wind is good enough for Grey and his lowing herd, it is good enough for me.

Paul

In the clue I think "gaining" is unnecessary if the answer is wend, but necessary if it is wind.

Malone

Yes, coming back from the pub involves a more curving and bending route than going there! That reminds me - have I told you that I sometimes leave home, walk a hundred yards, turn 90 degrees and then walk backwards for 40 yards. There is a rational explanation for this!

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grunger

2nd September 2020, 16:23
jigjag

it must be something you dont want to see so not the pub
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malone

2nd September 2020, 16:30
Jigjag

I have thought long and hard but haven't come up with any rational explanation for your rather strange journey. Please reveal all.

Jono,

I don't hold you personally responsible for that clue, so felt free to use 'underwhelmed'!
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chrise

2nd September 2020, 16:33
i thought the song was called "happy birthday to you", but wiki does give "happy birthday" as an alternative.
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