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aspria

9th July 2016, 20:00
33ac is holding me up. Looks like it should end with rce - can't see it at all.
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buzzb

9th July 2016, 20:33
As far as I can tell, the only way to find 12a in Chambers is to infer it from a discussion in the preface.

Re 33a: Carefully examine in Chambers all of the meanings of ORDINARY. There is an obscure one that more or less matches a 3-letter word with the same obscure meaning.

I am troubled by the first half of 5/14: It seems to be an &lit clue where the only way the wordplay works is BEFORE the 2-letter replacement is done. After you do the replacement, you have a good definition but the wordplay no longer works.
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buzzb

9th July 2016, 20:44
Escuan, I have used Quinapalus to solve Playfairs, too, (it's phenomenal) but in neither of these do I think it will help. Because the first phrase includes the attribution, that phrase will not be in its database. And the second phrase is not there either. I believe one has to solve these the old-fashioned way, but it is doable.
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dylan

9th July 2016, 20:45
5,14 seems to make sense with no changes ! So I've missed something.

I'm still stuck on 12,30 and 7,13, and no idea of the playfair aspect.
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buzzb

9th July 2016, 23:14
Re 5/14: I am pretty sure the change is LEaning -> PLaning. (but the wordplay surely is better with 'leaning')
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dylan

10th July 2016, 08:18
Buzzb, with PLANING, there is no indication of the final 6 letters of (my) answer. I wonder if the misprints are in HECK?
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uncle_w

10th July 2016, 08:51
Dylan , the only thing I can think of is a 'lister' is a type of plough and therefore 'cut' . Not a very satisfactory explanation I must say !
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meursault

10th July 2016, 09:21
A fillister plane is one that not only levels (or smooths) but also cuts a rebate joint. PL->LE.
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dryden

10th July 2016, 09:22
I'm also rather mystified by the encoding in 14. 5 is a normal clue. HECK doesn't decode to anything but nonsense, and it doesn't need decoding anyway, since Chambers gives the necessary meaning for it.

I'm also stumped by the wordplay to 30. I'm not sure whether the elements that make up the answer are letter lengths of 4,3,2 or 7,2, and I'm not sure which spelling of the word is clued. I'm inclined to go with the Chambers preferred spelling since then I can understand Betty and Ted, but not Tory. Another reason I've settled for the preferred spelling is that it completes the grid in a particular way that I would expect from this setter.
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dryden

10th July 2016, 09:27
Yes, Meursault, but what's the wordplay? As has been previously noted, when LEANING is decoded there appears to be an extended definition but no wordplay. I originally thought it was FIL(e) + LISTER, but that doesn't work once LEANING is decoded.
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