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krauton

28th July 2024, 23:17
I have extra words in the down clues 2,3,5,7,9,10,18,33,38.
these words are supposed to indicate the work in which a king appears.
Any hints.

Thanks
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drxx

28th July 2024, 23:51
Try 20 instead of 5 (where the def is an Americanism, hence 'Miami'). Find a common word to follow the extra words (I think the words at 2, 7 and 18 are obscure variations - maybe check Chambers for those).
Once you have the common word, think of a cryptic homophone for the clue gimmick - it's a film title.
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jadzia49

29th July 2024, 00:36
I have the king and petitioner . Have made one move with real words being maintained but obviously need to make another move to fix the the nonwords which resulted from the move. Just can’t see it! Any hints? Thanks.
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drxx

29th July 2024, 00:57
There are no non-words at any point. Real words remain (ignoring gaps) after the first move, the overwritten new position creates real words and then shorter ones are created (ignoring gaps) at that place following the final move - new words are then created at the final overwritten location.

That's a lot of new words - quite a feat!
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nxe

29th July 2024, 11:12
jadzia49 - watching the source material on YouTube should give you an indication on where, relative to the "petitioner", the final stage occurs.
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cockie

29th July 2024, 12:42
I have a full grid, the title of the work, the bloke in it ... and nothing beyond. I have never seen the work (nor do I greatly wish to, even to solve an EV - at 140 minutes that's too much of a drag) but wiki suggests that a "lonesome king" is involved. Is it worth seeking a clip of that bit in order to make progress?
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krauton

29th July 2024, 13:07

cockie

29th July 2024, 13:57
For the link, much thanks. I have the move described by the first two words from the ACROSS clues, but the second eludes me. If it comes after in the clip (as is implied by the fact that it comes second in the ACROSS hint) then I'm bamboozled. I know what I'm looking for in the grid, but can't see it. Yet.
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jack aubrey

29th July 2024, 14:52
Well, for anyone disappointed by a relatively easy Listener, this certainly balances the scales! Some pretty chewy clues and the allusive (elusive?) hint from the down clues almost had me beaten. Good fun though; and quite a feat of construction, too; thank you, Pandiculator.
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cockie

29th July 2024, 19:05
I think I'm about to qualify for at least the Bronze Medal in the EV Dimness competition. I've watched the clip several times and I think I can identify the manoeuvre needed ... but where to put the king to illustrate it? I can't locate a position anywhere which allows a real word. A hint would probably allow a night's sleep.
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