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rusty

13th June 2015, 13:31
Hello, Pigale!
I had a look in Chambers Dictionary and the meaning (I think) they give is, "knack of using", which seems fine.
Does not give the origin though. I will have a look at Brewer's and see what they say.
It sounds American to me, too. As does "hung jury".
Now, I only have a bacon roll when I go out with the young ones to a cafe! It is very easy to order.
I mortified my 17 year old granddaughter a month ago when we went to a cafe and I asked the serving lady what a panini was. My granddaughter was aghast.
Street cred in tatters!
So, I am safe enough with a bacon roll!
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chrise

13th June 2015, 13:35
Hi rusty
You could have pointed out to the waitress that "a panini" was wrong anyway - "i" endings are plural in Italian. I've never heard anyone asking for "a panino", though!
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rusty

13th June 2015, 13:44
Good one, Chris!
I have vowed to steer clear of panini/panino in the future.
I am on much safer ground with a bacon roll!
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pigale

13th June 2015, 14:16
Rusty, I had a look in Brewer's but did not find anything - perhaps I missed something.
the term 'knack' sounds good and 'get the knack of something' would be an almost perfect translation of the French expression (attraper le coup, or le 'truc')

As for Panini, never had one, but on first hearing the word, something made me think of .........violin !!!!!
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chrise

13th June 2015, 14:18
Silver in toasted roll makes a violinist? (8)
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elle

13th June 2015, 14:20
Chris, if you look up 'panini' in Chambers , it says that, although plural, it is loosely used used as a singular noun! with the plural then being 'paninis'!
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pigale

13th June 2015, 14:22
I like it Chrise! Quite sharp.
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chrise

13th June 2015, 14:25
Indeed, elle. It's another example of common English usage being wrong - but don't get me started on that again!
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elle

13th June 2015, 14:37
I won't, Chris! I think my abhorrence of incorrect English usage and bad grammar rivals yours! We've had discussions like this before!
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pigale

13th June 2015, 14:47
Glad to see I am not the only one being appalled by bad use of a language - and by bad/no punctuation.

A while back, I was accused of being 'a puritan' because I cannot stand a split infinitive; I know a language is alive and therefore must evolve, but I do not like to see it 'bastardized' (excuse my French!)

Guess lack / bad punctuation is the result of SMS etc...
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