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Hi Wendy

Re 8a It's a double meaning clue - in both cases it's a shortened version of the full word. Firstly a name for who sit on a bench at a football match. Secondly they travel underwater.

Good luck

Aha - got it now thanks. Must confess I'd never have got it without help and it was the travelling underwater which did it for me eventually. As for the first half of the clue, it probably doesn't help that I've never actually been to one of those events.

A great puzzle - thank you! That's 2 done now and I believe there's a 3rd somewhere but I haven't found where as yet.

Wendy is it the one here?
http://www.crosswordsolver.org/forum/110057/offset/21

Thanks Trevor, No. 3 safely printed off. I see it's Cinephile today in the FT who's my fave compiler of all time. I'll have to toss a coin to see which I do first!

Hi Wendy
somebody pointed out that Cinephile is an anagram of'Chile Pine'which,along with Araucaria,is a name for the monkey-puzzle tree.both are the same setter.

You're dead right Trevor. They're one and the same person. He's a retired Vicar by the name of John Graham and he's either 84 or 85. His "themed" puzzles are wonderful but my favourites are the Alphabetic and Perimetrical puzzles. You have to solve the clues then fit the answers in the grid wherever you can.

Here's one from today's Cinephile in the FT for you:

Maybe Cinephile's debts raised - £25 to 1,000, about (9 letters)

I'm sure it's not at all PC to swear at a Man of the Cloth but believe me - it happens in our house! I did the one above, but still have 4 left unsolved.

eponymous?
can see pony and m
but looks like 'ious' should be in there.

Got it - Pseudonym
pony m, and
dues not ious.

Trevor - well done! If you fancy the rest of the puzzle, it's here:

http://media.ft.com/cms/c7281892-18de-11e0-b7ee-00144feab49a.pdf

Ta v much Wendy,might give it a whirl.i don't think i've ever tried the FT.