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I've got it now. Any loud noise you may have just heard is that of me kicking myself.

AP< thanks - and glad you got there! I was trying to think of something else, anything else, that I could add to lead you to enlightenment, but I didn't get very far.

As always Malone the enlightenment came when I stopped over-thinking things. Thanks again to you and Quisling. Cockie, all 11 letters of CHAFF OR IDIOM appear in the original entries before the changes are made.

Thanks, AP. I didn't bother with the letters listed, nor all the ones gleaned from the clues - I like saving myself work!

Thanks to all.

I think that I have the final solution, but would never have got to the surname without the hint here.

If I am correct we are left with the Latin "this" (memories of hic haec hoc when I was twelve) and a terribly obscure Indian city.

I reread a couple of these recently, enjoyed them more as a lad!