Thanks, jack. No, that did make me smile. A few years ago it would have been different, that was when I bristled and bridled at 'wilfully obscure' clues and answers, thinking 'How is anyone supposed to know that?'. I then reminded myself that the setter obviously knew 'that' and probably quite a few solvers did too. So long is a clue is fair and the answer is... gettable, I try not to moan too much.