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nxe

17th November 2023, 21:43
Well, I've limped over the finish line after a fairly joyless three hour slog. Good luck to anyone without some degree of programming prowess with getting close to the end on this one - hardest Listener numerical in some time I think.
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pharum

18th November 2023, 03:05
I have a degree but no programming prowess and I've also just got over the line. I needed a pocket calculator but otherwise eliminating the impossible combinations and a bit of logic was what was required. Nice puzzle but no end game!
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rainbeaux

18th November 2023, 09:35
Oh dear! I only do the numericals, when Mr Rainbeaux has a little break from the usual weekly challenge. But where to start on this one? Can I assume that answers to the clues will all be 4 digits in length? That would help!
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cockie

18th November 2023, 11:48
Yes, as far as I can see, rainbeaux. The bottom rows - all three - yield fairly quickly, as does consideration of the value of X.
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rainbeaux

18th November 2023, 12:21
Thanks, cockie. Had just got there, working on that assumption.
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oyler

18th November 2023, 22:18
Interesting idea and thankfully no endgame given the difficulty. Your reward is in obtaining the solution. The problem with puzzles where you have a lot of possibilities is that if you find a solution with your first attempt you just stop. After managing to eliminate a specific down entry through a lot of work I was lucky in that the first set I tried for the other possibility worked. This was quite tough even allowing for some nice deductions. I'm now going for an icepack to cool my brain down! Thanks IOA.
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rhsl

19th November 2023, 06:29
Replying to candledave (#7):

Yes, it turns out that the die is as shown. So, for example, if T1 were 1 and F1 2, F3 could not be 4 but would have to be 3. But the puzzle can be solved without using that information.
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cypherhouse

19th November 2023, 07:30
Just made it through. Some nice deductions towards the start, but I was unable to progress though the mid/late sections without some old fashioned trial and error. I might not have minded too much if there was a nice end game, but since I didn't have that to look forward to the whole thing felt like a slog.
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gitto

19th November 2023, 13:13
I'm going around in ever increasing circles as I keep reaching an impossibility for F3 = the sum of my digits in the bottom 3 rows is 36, is that correct?
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andyp

19th November 2023, 13:35
thats what i have gitto - not that i have got much further (progress seemingly made then keep reaching impossibilities)...

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