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norah (admin)

17th December 2021, 15:07
It is obvious that having more than one thread has caused a great deal of confusion recently, nobody seems sure which thread they should be posting in so I thought it was time for yet another radical rethink

I have decided to have just one thread for the 2 remaining Listener Crosswords in December.

I have kept the preamble as short as possible in that thread, please read it and join in the discussion in a nice friendly manner, I want the discord of recent weeks banished to history.

After discussions in this week’s Gentle Hints thread, I have decided not to allow use of the Encoder. Please stick to simple English, this works very well with every other thread in the Forum, so please make it work for the Listener.

I would just like you to remind everyone that I have tried various ways to accommodate all viewpoints, we’ve had two threads, then three threads and I was (briefly) thinking about encoding. It's not my fault these ideas haven't worked, and it's not the fault of any specific members, it's more a case that there isn’t a 'one size fits all' solution. I’ll keep trying.

Just remember that the Listener is a unique puzzle, please treat it with the respect it deserves and do not give too much away when answering requests for help.
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malone

17th December 2021, 15:50
Thanks, Norah.

I appreciate your valiant efforts!

PS Maybe the title could be amended ever so slightly - ...ANOTHER NEW APPROACH (Take 4) , then if this one doesn't work, we might move on to (Take 5 ) then (Take 6)....
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tatters

17th December 2021, 15:55
You could have retained two weekly Listener threads IMO

One reserved for seeking help/giving hints

The second for bragging, complaining about posts on the main thread and valedictory speeches
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malone

17th December 2021, 15:57
Wonderful, Tatters!
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simond9x

17th December 2021, 16:14
Thanks for the laugh, Tatters, and also for the you know what.
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jeg

17th December 2021, 16:58
I didn’t think there was a Listener on Christmas Day as the paper isn’t published.
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loge

17th December 2021, 17:36
Jeg, there should be one the following weekend, online on the 31st, so long as there’s a Times on New Year’s Day?
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jeg

17th December 2021, 17:42
But Saturday is 1st January - a new Listener year for jeg.
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loge

17th December 2021, 17:45
Indeed, but the Listener threads will presumably start on Friday 31st December, when the puzzle goes online.
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drxx

17th December 2021, 19:32
That's a very good point, tatters - where do we go to celebrate completing the puzzles? I've finished it (''surely I can't be the first'').
Anyway, as I'm here -
I enjoyed Ifor's effort - not as hard as his usually are, but nicely realised and quite clever. Thanks all.
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