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bigjack

2nd June 2019, 09:35
Thanks, both.
That's what I thought, but somehow didn't connect "less substantial" with any definition of tinny.

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brendan

2nd June 2019, 09:52
Hi Richard, I too struggled with....

12a Football pundit's behind Yorkshire side: 'I don't like that, giving ground' (12)

Again, the answer is clear enough but what is the relevance of "I don't like that"? and if the 'Football pundit' is the one I'm thinking of, he hasn't been on TV for years.
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cerasus

2nd June 2019, 10:04
I took the football pundit as (Jimmy) Hill and the Yorkshire side as Boro + 4-letters for "I don't like that "
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richardk

2nd June 2019, 10:06
Yeah I can’t precisely parse it either. Pundit definitely the big chinned one.

“I don’t like that” is “Ugh!” maybe?

Which would leave “Boro” in the centre of the clue as the “Yorkshire side”? But the Boro are Middlesborough which the last time I looked wasn’t in Yorkshire. OK maybe it was part of Yorkshire years ago but the parsing is rather convoluted.

Unless there’s something more obvious I’m missing.
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brendan

2nd June 2019, 10:07
Of course, I missed the "ugh" - thanks again Cerasus.
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cerasus

2nd June 2019, 10:10
@rRichardK I found this:

In 1968 Middlesbrough became part of the County Borough of Teesside, and in 1974 it became part of the non-metropolitan county of Cleveland until the county's abolition in 1996, when Middlesbrough became a unitary authority. The town now forms part of North Yorkshire for ceremonial purposes only.
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brendan

2nd June 2019, 10:10
...and thank you too, Richard (and like you say, Jimmy hasn't been a pundit for quite some time!)
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clegghall

2nd June 2019, 10:20
Jimmy Hill, the late football pundit, died a few years ago, a poor distasteful clue particularly if "pundit's" is short for pundit is. Well and truly past tense.
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richardk

2nd June 2019, 10:36
I wouldn’t call it distasteful, dead people crop up all the time! Just quite convoluted for an Everyman of a Sunday morning...
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cerasus

2nd June 2019, 10:45
The apostrophe does not stand for "is". It is used as a 'possessive'
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