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many thanks JimC. i think i have it now (though not sure how it works. i have \\\'b\\\' in \\\'lada\\\' but the \\\'german camp\\\' is lost on me). thank you for taking the time to reply.

DJ,

I thinks it goes .. LABDA(greek 'lambda') = BD(bound) inside LAA(LAAGER(camp) minus GER(german)).