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john

19th November 2018, 08:50
Not quite fully resolved two overlapping clues ....got help earlier but just want to verify please.

13D Calm's flatter (6) S???H? I assume is SOOTHE

17A This did for bird (i.e. old) (6) ???L?R / ?O?L?R if SOOTHE is correct.
Is this COLLAR as in "doing bird" being in jail etc?

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rossim

19th November 2018, 08:55
smooths?
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john

19th November 2018, 08:58
Thanks Rossim - that's better than SOOTHE

What about the other ..... any ideas there?
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john

19th November 2018, 08:59
SMOOTHS too many letter - sorry Rossim
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rossim

19th November 2018, 09:01
Oops! Sorry.
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cerasus

19th November 2018, 09:03
17a Boiler is an old bird ?
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john

19th November 2018, 09:05
Thanks ceremus

So many possibilities here.....
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john

19th November 2018, 09:06
sorry cerasus
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scorpiojo

19th November 2018, 09:39
Sooths? ( sooth: blandish/flatter)
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claudie

19th November 2018, 13:22
22d Half of 15 or 17's liquor (4)
?r?e
3a That follows rodent race (8)
?a?????n
9a Blundering &c. Lasts? (8)
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