Hi Sudokulover - Sorry for delay in replying - I had to go out for a couple of hours. Yes, Thank you, I finished it before I went out - googling, of course - I remembered the names when I read them, but I couldn't have pulled them out of a hat. I don't know what happened about the other xword - I downloaded it in the usual way, early this morning, and made no connection with the number. I had tried at midnight last night, and the one that was there was the previous one. Presumably other people must have done the same thing. The one that I had first was easy, another by "Doc". Thank you - I'll be more careful next time!