Thanks giddy and Bullfrog, I see it all now. I do this crossword every week and usually manage to finish it without help. Maybe I'm being a bit thick this week but there are times when you just don't see the answer (even when it's staring you in the face). I did find this week's crossword more difficult than usual, as you can see by my posts, but apparently I'm not the only one. So, sorry EdwardBear if I have irritated you, I'll try harder next time..............