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rusty

26th July 2017, 19:30
Hello, Pigale!
If you were interested, there is lots on YouTube about the Mann Gulch fire.
I'll have a browse later.
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elle

26th July 2017, 20:30
Hi, Rusty!
It should be very interesting to compare the fire-fighting tactics between the two fires, as described in the books.
Particularly as they are written by father, then son.......and the fires were about ,,,what?.......45 years apart?
I like Nicholas Evans as a writer.
His books are good.
He also wrote "The Divide".
Yes, "The Horse Whisperer " will be the most well-known of his books.
Possibly because there was a film made from the book?
Rather disappointingly - certainly, to me - the film story was changed somewhat from the book, especially the ending.
I thought this a pity.......yes, the book ending was sad, but then to a point, so was the film....
But I would far rather have a true correlation between book and film.
We had beefburger with cheese and fried onions on a roll, for our meal!
Probably not terrible "healthy" .......but deliciously mouth -watering!
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rusty

26th July 2017, 20:52
Hello, Elle!
Your tea sounds great!
Hope you both enjoyed it!
Long time since I had a burger!
Yes, I am looking forward to the book arriving to see what lessons have been learned.
I seem to remember a series on National Geographic Television about a horse whisperer?
It sounds familiar anyway.
Was your Horse Whisperer book a true story or a novel?
The films are never as good as the book!
Though I think Jaws was.
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chrise

26th July 2017, 21:18
Controversially, rusty, I think Nick Hornby has been well served by films - IMHO both High Fidelity and About a boy are better films than books
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elle

26th July 2017, 22:16
Hi, Rusty!
As far as I am aware, "The Horse Whisperer" is fictional.
There are only rare occasions where a film is truly representative of the book.
"To Kill a Mocking Bird " is one, and "One Day" , a film based on David Nicholl's book of the same title, is another.
To my mind, a film should follow the book story and not be adapted to "improve" or "make more dramatic" the original story.
I could never bear to watch an adaptation of Tolstoy's "War and Peace" for fear that the film version would "ruin" memories of the book!
I think I need a coffee........


Hello, Chris,
I don't think that a film version should ever be an "improvement" on a book.
I think the stories should strictly correlate.
For this reason, if I have very much enjoyed a book... I don't usually watch a subsequent film .......and .especially if I have reason to suspect a "deviation" in the story!
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rusty

26th July 2017, 23:11
Hello, Elle!
Still a nice evening here.
Has your rain stopped?
I do not know "One Day", and I have not seen many films, especially modern ones, but nearly all the films have not been as good as the book.
"Jaws" and "Babe" were as nearly as good, and "Perfect Storm".
In my opinion.
But I prefer a book to a film any day of the week.
But...I read years ago that "Battleship Potemkin" was a very good film and I found it on YouTube, and have "saved" it.
i have not read War and Peace, and I started Crime and Punishment but only managed a few pages and abandoned it.
It was not for me.
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elle

27th July 2017, 09:31
Good morning, Rusty!
A fine start to the day here...but heavy rain is forecast for later.
Yes, I totally agree with you in preferring a book to a film.
I have read Dostoevsky's "Crime and Punishment," but many years ago......I could not tell you about it now!
I also enjoyed Pushkin's short story "The Queen of Spades" but likewise that was a long time ago!
In my ...er..."youth"!
You are going out with a (or more?) granddaughter (s) this morning, aren't you?
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rusty

27th July 2017, 09:56
Good morning, Elle!
A fine bright day here, so far!
The Oxford Dictionary Tweet today was about the usage of "into" and "in to".
I will read it later, as I often have to think about which one is "correct" for the sentence I am writing!
And I probably often get it wrong!
"Shall/will", is another puzzler for me!
Yes, Miss O and me are going out.
Not sure where we will end up.
The drive to Pine Cone is along country lanes mostly and there are roadworks in the area just now
So detours will have to be made.
And I am navigating....!
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elle

27th July 2017, 12:12
Hi, Rusty!
That sounds an interesting "tweet" about the uses of "in" and "to" and "into"!
Now, you have given me something to think about...!
Mostly I think we use the words by instinct without reasoning out what we are doing.
If I have it right, "into" is a preposition, used before a noun or pronoun;
whereas "in" and "to" are both adverbs and prepositions;
" in" is also an adjective and a noun, too.
And sometimes they are both part of a verb.
I shall be interested to learn all about this properly when you have read it up!
As regards "shall" and "will"........
I always remember the sayings we were taught at school!
" I SHALL drown and no -one WILL save me" means that one expects to drown.
Whereas
"I WILL drown and no one SHALL save me".......implies suicidal intent!
I think the general rule is that "shall" should be used with first persons singular and plural, and "will" is used with second and third persons.
English Grammar is one of my hobby horses!
Of course, I am not always correct in my personal usage! but I thoroughly enjoy looking into it!
I hope you have a good time at wherever you end up on your outing!
Hopefully, you will make it to the Pine Cone though, as planned, without too many deviations!
I am being beset by "junk" phone calls this morning.......very irritating!
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pigale

27th July 2017, 12:18
Hello Elle,

Do you not also use 'Shall' when wanting to express a strong
determination, almost an order?
eg : You SHALL do it!
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