@ Trevor - post 9 was intended for you -it crossed with Chris's post
Hi Chris: I missed the point of clue 8, 19 - probably because I'd never heard of a " nina" ! I'll know to take heed of such pointers in future. Thanks.
i should fess up and say i doubt i've ever spotted a nina without it being pointed out.
perhaps a setter can use it to get a kick start rather than staring at an empty grid?