Go raibh míle maith agat. Any ideas on the other question. Hubby fairly well up on GAA, so have been consulting..... pillow talk and all that!!!! The Roscommon man I consulted is married to excellent GP in Monaghan, she is brill, so prob he is too! I'm "well in" in Tipp too, so have sent my question that way too. A wee clue would still be appreciated, to get one over on the Tipp man - well known to us all.