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yma

25th May 2013, 18:14
stuck on17 ac church service in nick spiritually pure we hear from spooner,and 18dreligious leader giving a positive response about a charge,thanks for any help
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malone

25th May 2013, 18:41
17 Watchnight (Christmas Eve service, I think)
18 Ayatollah
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ginge

25th May 2013, 18:47
17a 2 5 letter words spoonerised for nick and spiritually pure. 1st part of solution vowel sound changes.
18d ; a/ (3 letter word for positive response round (a/4 letter word for charge).
Hope this helps.
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yma

25th May 2013, 18:57
thankyou both a great help
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rackbrain

27th May 2013, 10:16
ginge - I'm still don't see the parsing of 17A in Times Cryptic 1037. Is "natch" supposed to mean "nick" (in any of its senses, e.g. prison, steal, cut, etc.)? I could understand the clue if "s" was to be removed from "snatch", but the clue does not appear to indicate this.
Please explain.
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rackbrain

27th May 2013, 10:20
17 A Or is "natch" = "naturally" = "spiritually pure"?
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malone

27th May 2013, 10:27
I think it's Notch, for 'nick' and White for 'spiritually pure'. So 'notch white' then becomes watchnight (swapping over the first letters) . I think in Spoonerisms it's the sound that matters, so it doesn't matter that the 'o' in notch becomes an 'a' in watch.
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