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17a former triumph over,cower wretchedly in tangle 8

Hi OV, you asked elsewhere what 'orecchie ' means.
Its the plural of 'orecchio' [Italian] meaning,

orecchio m (plural orecchie)

hearing
An ear for music (particular sensibility)
An ear-shaped thing

Can't see any connection myself.

sorry sudokulover, was typing when you posted.

I have bishti for 1a - is this wrong?
Need help with 2d please:
Playwright promised Scotch, ultimate in usquebaugh, genuine. (5) ?ECH?

1a BHISTI
2d HECHE

Thank you sudokulover.

Thanks shoooty, that was a help. No answer on the other site! posted Azed (Sun 12th ) with orecrowe in 17a in the end. Felt more confident after reading this thread -- thanks again Olim V.