Thanks again pasty & rosalind for your kind words. Rosalind, disabling is the exact word - but I'm sure one of your cakes would help a lot! But don't send it to North Wales, I have a confession to make - I don't live there, Mrs Trellis is just my real name. Ok it's not, but I'm afraid I'm a Home Counties girl - although we did spend every summer on the Gower as children, and after Saturday's rugby I'm using that to claim Welsh citizenship. Actually, it probably gives me the right to play for them. Emrach, I believe I also have you to thank for chasing me up ;-) xx