Thanks jws, ixion, GK, p@, THEA, and of course Les. I seem to be having problems with my wireless access tonight, so I've given up trying to watch my prize. I'll go to bed and try again the morning. Night all!
Congratulations bullfrog - one of several really great clues. I found the phrase challenging, but obviously there are some great crossword minds out there.
Well done Bullfrog , a cleverly symmetrical clue and thanks for the vote ! Thanks also to Rosalind ,Rambler and redunanttelf whose kind words sort of made my day :)
Marty